Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Comment Response @atlanticcanuck



A tweeter by the handle @atlanticcanuck recently commented on my blog post as "anonymous"  (http://sacerdotvs.blogspot.com/2012/07/ban-ignorant-atheists.html)  and also on twitter demanding that I reply to her comment.  


Well here is my response.  My comments are in black and @atlanticcanuck's are in blue:  




<<The following is my response to a ridiculous blog I read. It was written by a theist, who, like they all seem to like to do, insults atheists with ludicrous lies. This is the crazy talk -> http://sacerdotvs.blogspot.ca/2012/07/ban-ignorant-atheists.html>>

Sacerdotus replies:

The comment brushes aside the blog post, but does not address its points.  This comment is obviously made out of spite.  The intention of my blog post is to alert everyone of the behavior of Atheists and why they are being suspended in large numbers on Twitter.    


<<The following is my response that the coward refuses to post:>>



Sacerdotus replies:

I never understood the need for so called Atheists to resort to dishonesty.  A glance at my blog and one will see the comment.  I only post comments that are free of profanity and to the point.  Ironically I am labeled a coward by someone who posted on my blog as "anonymous."  



<<I have never seen a blog post more fallacious in my entire life. >>


Sacerdotus replies:

I have, and many have been from Atheist bloggers. J  Just saying… 


<<First and foremost, it is the theists who are the bullies, the name callers and haters. They consistently take great pleasure in stating that we, and many others, will spend an eternity in a nonexistent "hell" - burning while they look on laughing at the suffering of others. What kind of person takes pleasure in the suffering of others? Even though hell is hogwash, they believe it's real and relish in such despicable fantasies. >>

Sacerdotus replies:

I can only speak for my Catholic Faith and can assure you that no one hates anyone.  Perhaps you speak of your experiences with fundamentalist Protestants who often are so overzealous in their beliefs that they condemn everyone else.  Catholics are also targets of these sects, so I can understand your frustration.  

The Catholic Church does not condemn anyone to hell.  As a matter of fact, the Church has never said anyone is in hell!   Hell is not something we have to focus on.  Our focus is on God and spreading His love to the world.  The Catholic Church teaches that anyone who is not of the fold can achieve salvation. 

{  ("Outside the Church there is no salvation"
846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335 Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.336
847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:
Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.337
848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."338)}



No Catholic, no priest, no bishop can say who will go to hell and who will not.  That is God’s job.  He is the judge!  Moreover, hell is not a place.  It is the state of the soul when separated from God’s grace. 



<<Theists hate atheists, anyone in the LGBT community, women, people of colour and, basically, anyone who is not a white, misogynistic, bigoted male.>>



Sacerdotus replies:

Again, I think you are venting about fundamentalist sects.  The Catholic Church hates no one.  We hate the sin, not the sinners.  The Catholic Church ministers to all: LGBT, Women, minorities, etc.  The Catholic Church is the most diverse institution ever to exist. 


 <<They think they have a right to shove their nonsensical archaic superstitious beliefs down the throats of rational "thinking" human beings. Theist DEMAND we respect their beliefs that are no more plausible than the belief in leprechauns. Their beliefs are based on 2000+ year old myths. These tales came from people who thought epilepsy was the manifestation of demons. Respect? Really?>>



Sacerdotus replies:

These are all claims based on ignorance of history and religion.   Ideas regarding Leprechauns, fairies and the like have a human origin.  God does not.  No one sat near a tree and said, “Let’s invent God.”  God is a concept that man has always had within his being.  Moreover, Geneticists have found the VMAT gene which predisposes all of us to belief in God and the supernatural. 



 <<The catholic church has spent centuries covering-up crimes and protecting pedophiles while hundreds of innocent children were tortured, raped and repeatedly victimized by the TRULY deviant in our society.>>



Sacerdotus replies:

The Catholic Church did not cover up a thing.  Some within the Church made decisions based on the knowledge available at the time which were obviously foolish.  Victims of sex abuse were not abandoned by the Church.  Those who asked received money for their pain and suffering after allegations were found to be credible.  

Moreover, child sex abuse occurs more among families than among clergy.  To date, the Catholic Church is the ONLY institution that has done a lot to remedy this and prevent it from happening again. 

 <<YOU, sir, ought to be ashamed! I'll start respecting magical foolishness when pigs can fly!>>


Sacerdotus replies: 

....ashamed of telling the truth that Atheists should learn how to behave when debating?  Really?!? 
Well the Evolution of pigs might force you to believe in “magical foolishness.” J 


<<And, FYI, Matthew Chatterton has more kindness, compassion, empathy and intelligence in his pinky than you appear to have in your entire being.>>


Sacerdotus replies:

My blog was not a reflection on Matthew’s character but on his irresponsible blog post which ignores the reality behind the suspension of unruly Atheist tweeters. 

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