Sunday, August 19, 2012

Blind lead the Blind...

The Bible says that if the "Blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit." (Luke 6:39).   Atheists are often accused of being intellectually and spiritually blind, but @rosarubicondior went to the extreme.

I invited Rosa to a debate.  I even sent the link to my blog, but no response.

Like Elijah with the prophets of Baal, I had fun with the situation.  I taunted Rosa knowing that Rosa's ego would not let anyone get the best of her.  (see Rosa's blog text at the end)

After a long wait when I logged off to do other things, Rosa finally replies but instead of accepting the debate, Rosa begins to distract by claiming that I never linked to the debate.  Like an immature child, she begins whining and ranting spreading lies.

Anyone with working eyes can see the debate link right next to Contact.  Anyone can go through my timeline and see the MANY MANY times I challenged atheists to debate me using the same blog link with the same information seen below:

This is obviously a distraction on Rosa's part to get out of debating me.  It is obvious she lacks the intellectual confidence to accept my invitation.  What's next?  Will she claim the link does not work or that my blog is down?  What excuse will she come up with now?  

Atheists will often do this.  They play the burden game by hiding behind the Rabbit hole and then distract in order to avoid defending their premise.  

Rosa Rubicondior, are you done with the games?  Everyone knows you are distracting.  Stop making a fool of yourself.  You are making Atheism look bad.  

Rosa then blogs about it giving her version in order to save face.  The posting obviously did not go through spell check. Look at the errors.  She obviously wrote this in a rush in order to distract her readers to her yet another gaffe.  :) 


How Christian Fundamentalists Lie To Us

It's never a pretty sight to watch a fundamentalist in melt-down, hilarious though it might be, and I don't normally carry over spats in Twitter into this blog, but this one is too good to pass up.

Of course, you can't draw a general conclusion from a specific example, but this illustrates what can happen when religious (in this case Catholic Christian) fanaticism crossed the boundary between a sincere attempt to convince people of the truth of a firmly-held superstitious belief, and a blatantly dishonest attempt to fool people, having run out of ideas for doing it honestly and with integrity but lacking the moral courage to admit to not having any evidence to use when asked for some.

It also illustrates rather nicely I think, the point I made in an earlier blog - If Creationism Is Science, Why Do They Need Tactics? - to which no creationist has yet been able to produce a coherent reply.

It also illustrates the parasitic viral nature of the religion meme in one of its more pathological manifestations.

These tweets on the right were posted by a fundamentalist who claims to be a trainee Catholic priest but who already has a reputation for dishonesty and is something of a figure of fun in the community of people who follow and post to the #Atheist / #Atheismhashtags on Twitter. He is know by the user-name@Sacerdotus. The tweets were all sent between 16:41 and 16:53 on 19 August 2012 BST.

The first thing to notice is the the link @Sacerdotus includes ( does not link to any such challenge, nor is there any reference to one on the site it links to. It is merely a link to his blog.

@Sacerdotus has access to my blog (Rosa Rubicondior) and regularly posts comments there but has never seen fit to post his 'challenge' there, nor have I ever received a challenge to him via email. I have never seen a Twitter tweet referencing this 'challenge', although, as @Sacerdustus knows, I had blocked him several months ago having tired of his infantile and dishonest 'debating' tactics there and in accord with the policy I state in my Twitter bio, and only unblocked him yesterday, so maybe @Sacerdosus chose to hide his 'challenge' by tweeting to me when he knew I wouldn't receive it.

But perhaps I am crediting @Sacerdostus with too much intelligence in assuming he would know that to issue a challenge, one needs to communicate that challenge to the person you are challenging, but, even for a trainee Catholic priest it seems unlikely that he would really be that stupid.

Which just leaves us with one realistic explanation: @Sacerdotus is lying again, and hoping again to trick people with deception because he knows that truth and honesty won't work.

And this of course illustrates what Francis Collins, himself a Catholic Christian, means when he says in The Language of God "Young Earth Creationism has reached a point of intellectual bankruptcy, both in its science and in its theology. Its persistence is thus one of the great puzzles and great tragedies of our time." I would also add moral bankruptcy to that charge but then that is to be expected of those who have abdicated personal responsibility in favour of obedience to the diktat of a character in a book who then provides a convenient scapegoat in the 'God Sez!' excuse.

@Sacerdotus' abandonment of even a pretence of honesty and integrity and his descent into the playground tactics illustrated above in lieu of evidence, reason and logic in civilised debate, shows how religion can pervert the human mind and turn it to it's own purpose at the expense of personal integrity and dignity, just as a virus perverts the host it infects and uses it for the benefit of the virus at the expense of the host.

One wonders just what else sufferers from this psychotic delusion are capable of perpetrating on mankind if they ever regained the power they once held over us in the appropriately-called 'Dark Ages', if this is the sort of response you get to a polite request to validate an assertion or provide supporting evidence for a claim of fact.

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