He wrote:
"It’s obvious you are hiding behind god with your ignorance and so called faith. It’s disturbing how you can cherry pick from YOUR bible. What you failed to mention is that YOUR bible YOUR faith also states “Intercultural - Interracial Marriage Relationships” are forbidden. Common-law marriage, cohabitation, and divorce are a sin according to your bible and faith but it’s legal and MILLIONS (people within your own faith) exercising their rights. How about Deuteronomy 22:5 “Woman shall not wear that which “pertaineth unto man.” I see women of your faith and beliefs wearing pants all the time and isn’t that “pertaineth unto men.” I want to leave you with one last bible scrip to think about. Luke 6:37 ESV “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven. I am pretty sure with this blog you are going to HELL according to your bible /faith/beliefs. Looks like YOU have a lot to worry about rather than casting stones. I could go on-and-on about what your bible/faith states. Rather then do that I am going to pray for you because the FACTS show that your god/faith is very disappointed with you. Thank you, to my faith, Jesus, god that he accepts me for who I am. An open mind will set you free!"
Sacerdotus replies:
No one is hiding. If I were hiding I would not have confronted the deception Sue is presenting as Christianity. I did not "cherry pick." I used Scripture that explicitly challenges the views of Sue. The post was not meant to be an extensive Bible study. It solely addressed the Tweets she made.
I understand your anger and your need to pinpoint what you feel are discrepancies within the Judeo-Christian faith - I know first hand, I used to be an Atheist. However, your questions and misconceptions do have answers. In short, the verses you cite from the Old Testament deal with cultural external rituals, not religion or morals. See my "Evil Bible" blog. Jesus addressed this many times with the Pharisees who saw external laws and rites as equal to Spiritual and Moral laws.
Yes unfortunately divorce is legal and we see the negative consequences of it in society. However, just because a law is law does not make it moral. Suppose there existed a law to segregate homosexuals from heterosexuals, would that be moral just because it is law? No it would not. Laws must reflect the common good of all.
The verse in Luke deals with Rash Judgement. The Catholic Church defines it:
2477 Respect for the reputation of persons forbids every attitude and word likely to cause them unjust injury.278 He becomes guilty:
- of rash judgment who, even tacitly, assumes as true, without sufficient foundation, the moral fault of a neighbor;
- of detraction who, without objectively valid reason, discloses another's faults and failings to persons who did not know them;279
- of calumny who, by remarks contrary to the truth, harms the reputation of others and gives occasion for false judgments concerning them.
2478 To avoid rash judgment, everyone should be careful to interpret insofar as possible his neighbor's thoughts, words, and deeds in a favorable way:
- Every good Christian ought to be more ready to give a favorable interpretation to another's statement than to condemn it. But if he cannot do so, let him ask how the other understands it. And if the latter understands it badly, let the former correct him with love. If that does not suffice, let the Christian try all suitable ways to bring the other to a correct interpretation so that he may be saved.280
- -http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a8.htm
I made a blog post regarding this self-proclaimed minister's views on God and how He sees Homosexuality. It was not a judgment on her character. The latter is what you are doing to me by claiming that God is "disappointed in me" and that I need an open mind. You do not know me personally nor have a direct line to God to make such claims.
In my blog post, I attacked Sue's views. There is a big difference between attacking someone's views and that someone. Nevertheless, the LGBT community does seem to demonstrate tendencies of complex by believing that any disagreement or discussion that does not favor them is "bigotry" or "judgement." That is unfortunate and a violation of freedom of speech and common sense.
Not everyone is going to agree with you my friend. Those that do not are not judging you or are bigots. They are entitled to their views.
I "cast stones" at homosexuality, not homosexuals. Just like I "cast stones" at abortion, not abortion supporters and so on.
Thank you for your prayers. I will pray for you as well that the Lord will show you that "male and female" He created them and that sex does not define you, The Creator does.
I will preach Christ's Word when it is: "In season and out of season..." 2 Timothy 4:2
I will preach Christ's Word when it is: "In season and out of season..." 2 Timothy 4:2
LoL, Thank you for proving my point. Your response: "Suppose there existed a law to segregate homosexuals from heterosexuals, would that be moral just because it is law? No it would not. LAWS MUST RELECT THE COMMON GOOD OF ALL." Listen, that is all we are asking for are “LAWS MUST RELECT THE COMMON GOOD OF ALL.” My gay lifestyle will have no effect on you or your kids. If you don't want a gay marriage then don’t marry a guy. I am NOT going to force you into something that goes against your beliefs but don't try and force your beliefs onto us "gays". My faith says it's NOT moral to go against being true to oneself, straight or gay. You need to worry about the people of your faith because I see a lot of them casting stones and SINNING. Your faith does not get to define me or define how I should live my life. From @AdvocateGuy
ReplyDeleteYou misinterpreted my "the common good of all" comment.
ReplyDeleteForcing children to accept gay relationships and lifestyles as the norm against their parent's wishes is not the common good.
Suing flower shops, hotels, Churches, Halls because they refuse to cater to homosexual couples is not the common good.
Suing and calling for the dismissal of teachers or others who disapprove of the homosexual lifestyle is not for the common good.
Suing preachers, priests, rabbis and imams because they speak out against homosexuality is not the common good.
Forcing Faith-based adoption agencies to close because they do not allow gay couples to adopt is not the common good.
See the point?
Your gay lifestyle has an effect on me and all of society. You just don't see it because you filter everything through the LGBT lense.
It is not about forcing anyone. It is about protecting society. The Church is not saying to close gay clubs or businesses, or stop Pride parades. We are concerned that society will collapse because of this social engineering done by the LGBT agenda.
To burrow from Star Trek, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." :)
Gay and LGBT citizens are NOT FORCING anyone to do anything. WoW, your comments are showing your true ignorance. Your faith, your bible, your people are the one’s trying to force gays to conform by bully tactics. It’s a fact and you know it! We are fighting for equality and understanding. You are so clouded by ignorance you can’t see the facts about gays and LGBT. From @Advocateguy
ReplyDeleteNo my friend, it is YOU whose ignorance has been visible all this time. In your zealous desire to advance this cause, you refuse to see the consequences it will have on us all.
ReplyDeleteThe LGBT agenda seeks to change the values of different nations by force under the guise of "discrimination." Recently Nigeria voted -despite threats from the UK- to permanently ban so-called "gay marriage."
My Faith seeks the good of ALL, not just Catholics. The Gay agenda will destroy America by destroying the cell of a society - the family. Gay people already have equality and understanding. It is apparent that the LGBT community seeks special rights.
One day you will turn around and see the Truth. God will show you. This isn't a Catholic Church vs Gays, it is about protecting marriage and society. Think about it: If anyone can marry, if marriage is not exclusive to heterosexuals who hold the power to procreate, then who are we to restrict people from marrying and loving minors or even animals? Where do we draw the line of sanity and decency? In a free for all society chaos will destroy it.
See my post: http://sacerdotvs.blogspot.com/2011/10/pedophilia-rights.html