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Saturday, August 1, 2026

Refuting 'Aron Ra' Strawman Arguments

Who Is Aron Ra, and What Is “the RA” About?

Aron Ra, born L. Aron Nelson on October 15, 1962, in Kingman, Arizona, is one of the more visible American atheist activists of the early twenty-first century. Baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as a child, he has long maintained that he was already a skeptic in his youth, questioning religious claims long before he left faith behind entirely. He pursued studies in paleontology at the University of Texas at Dallas, completed an associate’s degree at Dallas College, and later earned a Bachelor of Science in Anthropology from the School of Human Evolution and Social Change at Arizona State University in 2022. These academic credentials, combined with years of self-directed study of evolutionary biology and cladistics, form the backbone of his public persona as a science communicator and critic of creationism.

Ra is best known for his YouTube channel, which has accumulated hundreds of thousands of subscribers and tens of millions of views; his 2016 book Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism, expanded from a seventeen-part video series that began in 2007; the Ra-Men Podcast; and organizational roles with American Atheists (as a regional director and board member) and, previously, as president of the Atheist Alliance of America. He has testified before the Texas State Board of Education against efforts to weaken the teaching of evolution or insert creationist ideas into science classrooms. He participated in the “Unholy Trinity” speaking tours alongside Matt Dillahunty and Seth Andrews, directed the ongoing Phylogeny Explorer Project (a free online encyclopedic tree of life), and has identified himself as an anti-theist and apistevist—someone who regards faith itself as an illegitimate method of arriving at knowledge. In 2017 he briefly ran as a Democratic candidate for the Texas State Senate in District 2 before withdrawing after failing to secure the party’s endorsement.

“The RA” refers first and foremost to Aron Ra himself. The professional name draws deliberately on the ancient Egyptian sun god Ra, signaling both a break from his birth name and a rhetorical flourish that has become part of his brand. By extension it encompasses the body of work associated with that name: the Ra-Men Podcast (a recurring discussion series featuring guests from the secular, scientific, and activist communities, often mixing science education with critiques of religion), the extensive YouTube catalog focused on evolution, skepticism, and anti-theism, and the broader activist project of promoting methodological naturalism, evolutionary biology (with special emphasis on phylogeny and cladistics), and the claim that religious faith is both intellectually dishonest and socially harmful. The podcast title itself is a pun on “ramen,” reflecting the informal, conversational tone Ra often cultivates even while delivering pointed critiques. His central contention is that creationism rests on a series of foundational falsehoods and that replacing faith with reason, scientific understanding, and humanist values would constitute genuine progress for humanity.

Ra’s rhetorical style is confrontational and detailed, particularly when addressing biological topics. He repeatedly stresses the reality of transitional fossils, the occurrence of beneficial mutations, the nested hierarchical pattern of life, and the artificiality of the creationist distinction between “microevolution” and “macroevolution.” He insists that evolution is simultaneously a fact (the observable change in allele frequencies and the historical pattern of common descent) and a theory (the explanatory framework of natural selection, genetic drift, mutation, and gene flow). He argues that evolution does not equal atheism, that scripture cannot be demonstrated to be the “word of God,” that belief is not the same as knowledge, that mutations are not exclusively deleterious or information-losing, and that religion has been a net negative force in human history. Intelligent design, in his view, is merely rebranded creationism that fails every criterion of a genuine scientific theory. Creationism itself he portrays as pseudoscience rooted in literalist readings of ancient texts that conflict with geology, genetics, paleontology, and cosmology.

This essay introduces Ra and his project, then systematically examines and refutes the more expansive claims that accompany his otherwise stronger biological arguments. It does not deny the broad empirical success of evolutionary theory. Common descent, the reality of transitional forms, the non-random action of natural selection with respect to fitness, and the capacity of genetic systems to generate novelty are among the best-supported conclusions in modern biology. The fossil record, comparative anatomy, molecular systematics, endogenous retroviruses, biogeography, and direct observation of evolutionary processes form a powerful consilience. Where Ra is strongest is precisely in dismantling young-Earth creationist canards. Where he overreaches—and where refutation is warranted—is in the leap from those biological successes to comprehensive metaphysical, historical, and cultural conclusions: that acceptance of evolution naturally or properly leads to anti-theism, that faith is definitionally the most dishonest epistemic stance possible, that religion has been uniformly the worst invention of humanity, and that historical and philosophical complexity can be flattened into a simple morality play of reason versus superstition. Truth-seeking requires following the evidence without inflating conclusions beyond what the data and the historical record actually support.


Evolution Does Not Equal Atheism—and Ra’s Framing Still Overreaches

The first “foundational falsehood” Ra attributes to creationism is the assertion that evolution equals atheism. He is correct that this equation is false. Large numbers of religious believers, including many mainstream Christian denominations, Catholics who accept the teaching authority of recent papal statements, and various Jewish and Muslim thinkers, regard evolutionary processes as the means by which life has diversified. Some view those processes as guided or sustained by a deity; others treat them as the secondary causes through which a creator works. Creationists who insist on an absolute dichotomy—either evolution or God—frequently misrepresent both the scientific consensus and the range of theological options that have existed for more than a century.

Yet Ra’s own activism repeatedly treats evolutionary acceptance as a practical gateway to, or strong evidence for, anti-theism. He frames religion as inherently anti-scientific whenever it conflicts with particular readings of sacred texts, and he promotes the replacement of faith with reason and humanism as a near-inevitable step of cultural maturation. This underplays the live option of theistic evolution and the distinct philosophical arguments that operate at a different explanatory level from biological mechanisms. Evolution accounts for the diversification of life once life exists. It does not address abiogenesis (the origin of the first living systems), the origin of the universe, the existence and fine-tuning of the laws of physics, the nature of consciousness, or the foundations of moral realism. Methodological naturalism is an effective research strategy for investigating the natural world; it is not itself a complete metaphysics that rules out non-natural realities or ultimate explanations.

Critics have observed that Ra sometimes collapses important distinctions between young-Earth creationism—which is empirically falsified by multiple independent lines of evidence from geology, radiometric dating, genetics, and cosmology—and broader forms of theism or intelligent-design arguments that do not require a young Earth or the rejection of common descent. Equating all religious belief with the most literalist, anti-evidence forms creates a convenient straw man. Many scientists, both historically and in the present day, have held religious or spiritual convictions while fully accepting the evidence for evolution. The mere existence of theistic evolutionists demonstrates that the dichotomy Ra primarily attributes to creationists is not the only intellectually available position. One can accept the nested hierarchy of life, the reality of transitional fossils, and the mechanisms of population genetics without thereby committing oneself to the further claim that no transcendent reality exists or that faith is inherently dishonest.

Moreover, the philosophical questions that remain after evolutionary biology has done its work are not trivial. Why is there something rather than nothing? Why do the constants of physics permit stable matter, chemistry, and ultimately life? Is consciousness fully reducible to physical processes, or does it point to something further? These questions are not answered by pointing out that bacteria can evolve antibiotic resistance or that Tiktaalik exhibits intermediate features between fish and tetrapods. Ra’s rhetoric often slides from the legitimate demolition of young-Earth claims into the implication that once those claims are gone, the broader religious enterprise collapses. That implication does not follow.


Genesis and the Progression of Life: Parallels, Rankings, and the Question of Origins

One of the most persistent points of tension between young-Earth creationism and evolutionary biology—and a frequent target in Aron Ra’s critiques—is the claim that the biblical account in Genesis is simply ancient folklore with no meaningful correspondence to the scientific history of life. A more careful reading, however, reveals that the order of events described in Genesis 1 has long been noted by theistic evolutionists, day-age theorists, and some progressive creationists as displaying a broad, high-level progression that roughly tracks the sequence in which major categories of organisms appear in the fossil and genetic record. This is not a claim of detailed scientific precision or inerrant modern biology written in ancient Hebrew. It is an observation that the narrative moves from simpler foundational conditions and life forms toward greater complexity and specialization in a manner that is not random and that can be compared, without forcing, to the large-scale trajectory of evolutionary history.

The Genesis sequence begins with the creation of light and the separation of waters and sky, followed by dry land and vegetation, then sea creatures and flying things, then land animals, and finally humanity. In evolutionary terms, the history of life on Earth also begins after the formation of a habitable planet with liquid water and an atmosphere, proceeds through the origin of the first living systems, and then unfolds as a long progression of increasing organizational complexity. The earliest life was microbial—prokaryotic cells without nuclei. Over vast stretches of time these gave rise to more complex eukaryotic cells, then multicellular organisms, photosynthetic organisms that oxygenated the atmosphere, marine invertebrates, early vertebrates, plants that colonized the land, arthropods and other invertebrates on land, amphibians, reptiles, birds, mammals, and eventually primates and humans. The overall direction is from simpler, more generalized forms toward more differentiated, specialized, and (in certain lineages) neurologically advanced organisms.


A ranking of major organismal grades by their approximate order of appearance and relative complexity illustrates the parallel:


1. Abiotic foundation – The physical conditions of light, water, atmosphere, and land must exist before life can appear. Genesis places these first. Evolutionary history likewise requires a planet with suitable chemistry and energy sources before any biological processes can begin.


2. Prokaryotes (bacteria and archaea) – The simplest cellular life. These dominate the earliest fossil record (stromatolites and chemical signatures dating back more than 3.5 billion years). Genesis does not name microbes, but the “vegetation” of Day 3 can be read at a high level as the introduction of life that transforms the planet—photosynthetic organisms that produce oxygen and organic matter.


3. Eukaryotes and early multicellular life – Cells with nuclei and the first colonial or simple multicellular forms. These appear hundreds of millions of years after the first prokaryotes.


4. Marine invertebrates and early aquatic life – Soft-bodied and later shelled organisms that fill the oceans. Genesis Day 5 begins with the “swarming” of waters with living creatures.


5. Fish and other early vertebrates – More advanced aquatic forms with internal skeletons.


6. Land plants and terrestrial colonization – Vascular plants, followed by forests. Genesis places vegetation relatively early, which has been noted as a point of tension with a strict chronological reading (plants appear after the sun in a literalist view, yet before most animals). In a progressive or framework reading, the emphasis is on the earth bringing forth plant life as a foundational ecological step.


7. Flying creatures and further marine diversification – Birds and more advanced aquatic animals. Genesis groups “birds” with sea creatures on Day 5. Evolutionary history shows flying insects earlier and flying vertebrates (pterosaurs, birds, bats) later, but the broad movement from water to air is present.


8. Land animals (amphibians, reptiles, mammals) – Genesis Day 6 brings forth livestock, creeping things, and beasts of the earth. The fossil record shows a clear progression from amphibians emerging onto land, to reptiles, to synapsids and eventually true mammals.


9. Humanity – The final and most cognitively advanced form in the narrative, made “in the image of God.” Evolutionary biology places anatomically modern Homo sapiens at the recent end of a long primate lineage, distinguished by language, abstract thought, culture, and moral reasoning. The ranking ends with the organism that is capable of reflecting on the process itself.


This ranking is not a strict linear ladder of “progress” in the outdated nineteenth-century sense. Evolutionary biology emphasizes branching, contingency, and the fact that bacteria remain extraordinarily successful. Yet there is an undeniable historical trajectory of increasing maximum complexity: from single cells to multicellular bodies, from simple nervous systems to large brains, from ecological generalists to highly specialized forms, and ultimately to a species capable of science, art, and theology. Genesis presents a similar directional movement—from formless void to ordered world to living creatures to human beings who are given dominion and moral responsibility.

Abiogenesis—the origin of the first living systems from non-living chemistry—stands outside the scope of evolutionary theory proper. Evolution explains how life diversifies once it exists; it does not explain how life began. Genesis attributes the origin of life to direct divine action (“Let the earth bring forth…” and the special creation of humanity). Modern science investigates possible natural pathways: chemical evolution in hydrothermal vents, RNA-world scenarios, lipid vesicles, and other hypotheses that remain incomplete and highly speculative. No laboratory has yet demonstrated a fully convincing, unguided transition from simple molecules to a self-replicating, metabolizing cell under realistic early-Earth conditions. The gap is real. Concordist readings of Genesis can therefore treat the appearance of life as a genuine threshold event—whether understood as special creation, progressive divine guidance, or the front-loading of natural laws that make abiogenesis possible—without contradicting the subsequent evolutionary diversification that the fossil and genetic records document so thoroughly.

None of this requires claiming that the author of Genesis possessed direct modern scientific knowledge or that every chronological detail maps perfectly onto the geologic timescale. But the similarities are worth taking note.  Birds appearing before land mammals in a strict day-by-day reading, or vegetation before the explicit creation of the sun, are classic points of friction for rigid concordism. Framework and literary interpretations treat the seven-day structure as a theological ordering of realms and rulers rather than a sequential timeline. Even so, the broad directionality remains striking: an ordered cosmos, the progressive appearance of life from simpler to more complex forms, and the culminating emergence of humanity. This pattern is not what one would necessarily expect from pure mythic invention unconcerned with the actual history of the world.

In the context of critiques such as those advanced by Aron Ra, the observation matters. Ra treats Genesis as folklore whose claims are simply false when measured against science. A more nuanced engagement recognizes that the text’s high-level progression of life forms is compatible with, rather than contradicted by, the large-scale ranking and sequence revealed by evolutionary biology—while the question of abiogenesis remains an open frontier where empirical science has not yet closed the book and where theological claims of purposeful origination continue to stand as a coherent alternative or complement. The mirroring is imperfect and interpretive, yet it is real enough to undermine the claim that the biblical narrative and the scientific history of life are wholly discontinuous.


Scripture, Interpretation, and Historical Claims

Ra argues that scriptures are not the “word of God,” that human interpretation cannot claim absolute truth, and that belief is not knowledge. On the epistemic point he is largely correct: sincere conviction does not equal justified true belief. Extraordinary claims require proportionate evidence. Eyewitness testimony is fallible; confirmation bias is pervasive; and the human capacity for self-deception is well documented. Declaring that one “knows” something solely because one believes it intensely is a category error.

However, his treatment of biblical texts and of Christian intellectual history frequently relies on a face-value literalism of the very sort he criticizes in creationists, combined with selective or inaccurate historical claims. The historian Tim O’Neill, writing at History for Atheists, has documented multiple errors in Ra’s public statements concerning medieval and early Christian views of the shape of the Earth, the Antipodes, and related topics. Ra has claimed that Augustine and Procopius of Caesarea believed the Earth was flat. They did not. The educated consensus in the Greco-Roman world and throughout the medieval Christian period was that the Earth is a sphere; discussions of the Antipodes concerned whether land and people existed on the opposite side, not whether the Earth itself was flat. Ra has misread statements about the Antipodes and has used the outer panels of Hieronymus Bosch’s Garden of Earthly Delights (c. 1490) as evidence that “Christianity was still promoting belief in a flat Earth” as late as the end of the fifteenth century. The imagery does not support that reading. He has also made secondary errors, such as describing Bosch as a monk or misstating the Catholic Church’s later stance on the Galileo affair. When challenged on these points, responses have often been characterized by critics as evasive, subject-changing, or focused on tone rather than substantive correction.

A broader pattern appears in examinations of Ra’s biblical and historical arguments. He frequently reads texts as a former fundamentalist might—taking them at face value without sufficient engagement with scholarly context, literary genre, ancient Near Eastern parallels, or the long history of interpretation—and then treats the resulting absurdities as proof of overall falsehood. In some comparative-religion or mythicist-leaning claims, correlation is treated as causation; fringe or inadequately supported theories are occasionally elevated. This is the inverse of the creationist error of forcing modern scientific conclusions into ancient poetic or theological language: here, ancient texts are judged by modern scientific standards without adequate historical humility or attention to what the original authors and audiences could reasonably have meant.

Scripture can be studied as literature, as a historical source (with all the critical tools that entails), as theology, or as a repository of moral and existential insight without requiring either inerrantist literalism or wholesale dismissal as “fantasy folklore.” Claims of divine inspiration are not scientifically testable in the same way that hypotheses about transitional fossils or genetic mechanisms are testable; they belong to a different category of inquiry. Ra’s insistence that faith is definitionally “the most dishonest position it is possible to have” because it is not strictly evidence-based overlooks the fact that many religious traditions incorporate reason, evidence, philosophical argument, lived experience, and tradition. It also overlooks that every comprehensive worldview—including strict metaphysical naturalism—involves some unprovable starting points or axioms. The demand for evidence is legitimate; the declaration that any commitment not reducible to empirical demonstration is therefore the height of dishonesty is itself an overstatement.


Mutations, Information, Transitional Forms, and the Strength of Evolutionary Evidence

On the strictly biological claims that dominate much of his output, Ra is on solid ground when he rejects the assertions that mutations are always rare, exclusively harmful, or necessarily information-decreasing; that no transitional fossils exist; or that evolution is purely random in a sense that precludes adaptation and complexity. Beneficial mutations have been observed and documented. The fossil record contains numerous transitional forms—examples include sequences in vertebrate evolution, the ancestry of whales, horse lineages, and the human-ape divergence. Natural selection is non-random with respect to relative fitness. Genetic information can increase through gene duplication, co-option of existing structures, and other well-studied mechanisms. The nested hierarchical pattern of traits, molecular clocks, shared endogenous retroviruses, and biogeographic distributions form a powerful, mutually reinforcing body of evidence for common descent.

Refuting these particular creationist claims, however, does not settle every remaining scientific or philosophical question. Gaps persist in the detailed reconstruction of certain major transitions, in the full accounting of the origin of novel body plans and genetic regulatory networks, and especially in the origin of life itself—an issue that evolutionary theory proper does not claim to resolve. Intelligent-design proponents (a category distinct from young-Earth creationism) argue that certain biological and cosmological features exhibit the hallmarks of design without necessarily rejecting common descent or deep time. Ra treats intelligent design as simply rebranded creationism that meets none of the criteria of a scientific theory. That assessment is shared by the majority of scientific organizations. Yet the deeper philosophical question—whether the appearance of design in biology or in the fine-tuning of the physical constants is best explained by unguided processes alone or by intelligence—remains contested outside the strict confines of methodological naturalism. Declaring the matter closed solely because the most popular creationist versions fail is an overstatement. One can accept the full force of the evolutionary evidence and still regard the ultimate source of the order and the conditions that make evolution possible as an open question.


Religion as Net Negative and the Problem of Selective History

Ra frequently asserts that religion has been a net negative for humanity—manipulative, retarding of progress, violative of rights, and the worst thing human beings have ever invented—and that a society composed of reasonable, rational, educated, objective, skeptical people would tend toward atheism and humanism. Historical counterexamples are abundant and cannot be dismissed without distortion. Religious motivations played significant roles in certain strands of the abolitionist movement. Medieval Christian institutions founded many of the earliest universities and hospitals in Europe. Religious bodies have long sustained charitable institutions, artistic patronage, and scientific inquiry (even while, at other times and places, opposing particular scientific conclusions). Concepts of human dignity and rights have, in various traditions, drawn on religious ideas of the imago Dei or the equal standing of persons before a transcendent moral order—even when those ideals were applied unevenly or hypocritically.

Atrocities committed in the name of religion are real, numerous, and indefensible. Equally real are the atrocities committed under explicitly atheist or secular totalitarian regimes in the twentieth century. Cherry-picking the negatives of religion while downplaying its positives, or attributing all genuine progress solely to the decline of religious influence, is not rigorous history. It is selective narrative. Ra’s activism against the insertion of creationism into public-school science classrooms is defensible on the straightforward ground that science classes should teach the scientific consensus. Expanding that legitimate educational concern into a broader cultural project of replacing faith with humanism assumes what still needs to be demonstrated: that a purely secular humanism, without any transcendent grounding, is stable and sufficient for meaning, ethics, and long-term social cohesion. Empirical data on secularization, fertility rates, mental health trends, and measures of social trust in highly secular societies present a mixed picture that does not unambiguously ratify the strongest anti-religious claims.


Definitions of Atheism and Rhetorical Strategies

Like many contemporary activists, Ra often defines atheism strictly as the lack of belief in gods (the “lacktheist” position) and treats positive claims that no gods exist as a subset rather than the core definition. He has criticized broader or historically attested definitions, including entries in standard philosophical reference works, when they fail to match his preferred usage. Philosophically, both the “lack of belief” formulation and the “belief that there are no gods” formulation have histories and arguments behind them. Policing the definition so as to place the entire burden of proof on theists while insulating atheism from any positive claim can function more as a rhetorical shield than as a neutral clarification of terms.

His debates and videos are frequently effective at exposing weak creationist arguments—Ray Comfort-style banana arguments, blanket denials of transitional fossils, claims that evolution is “just a theory” in the colloquial sense, and similar canards. The weakness emerges when the target shifts from specific, falsifiable empirical claims to the entire phenomenon of religious belief, or when historical and philosophical complexity is flattened into a binary of enlightened reason versus benighted superstition. Intellectual honesty cuts in both directions. It requires rejecting creationist denial of the evidence; it also requires resisting the inflation of biological success into comprehensive metaphysical victory.


Conclusion: Evidence, Overreach, and Intellectual Honesty

Aron Ra has performed a genuine service in popularizing evolutionary biology against persistent young-Earth creationist misinformation and in defending evidence-based science education. The core biological claims he defends—common descent, the reality of transitional forms, the non-random character of selection with respect to fitness, and the occurrence of beneficial mutations—are well supported by multiple independent lines of evidence. Creationist attempts to equate evolution with atheism, to deny the fossil and genetic records, or to smuggle religious doctrine into science classrooms deserve clear and forceful rebuttal.

Those successes do not immunize every argument he advances. Historical inaccuracies about Christian cosmology and Church history, an overly literalist approach to ancient texts that mirrors the fundamentalism he rejects, the elevation of faith to the status of maximal epistemic dishonesty, the treatment of all religion as a uniform net negative, rigid definitional insistence on a particular understanding of atheism, and the slide from “this particular religious claim is unsupported by empirical evidence” to “therefore metaphysical naturalism is the default complete worldview” constitute overreach. They risk replacing one set of foundational falsehoods with another: the falsehood that science has settled every metaphysical question, that history is a simple morality play of religion versus reason, and that intellectual honesty requires the abandonment of any non-empirical sources of meaning, commitment, or ultimate explanation.

A more careful position accepts the empirical strength of evolutionary theory, remains open to philosophical arguments about ultimate origins and purpose, evaluates specific religious claims on their own merits (historical, textual, experiential, and logical), and resists both creationist denialism and anti-theist triumphalism. Evidence should constrain belief. It should not be used as a club with which to declare entire categories of human inquiry dishonest by definition. Ra’s work is strongest when it remains close to the biological data and the exposure of clear empirical falsehoods. It is weakest when it expands into comprehensive cultural, historical, and metaphysical indictment. Readers interested in the topics he addresses will be better served by consulting primary scientific literature, serious historical scholarship, and a range of philosophical and theological responses than by relying solely on activist presentations from any single side of these debates.




References


- Biographical and organizational information drawn from Wikipedia entries on Aron Ra (English and other language versions), Center for Inquiry speaker profiles, and related public records.

- Aron Ra’s own website (aronra.com), YouTube channel, the video series Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism, the book of the same title (Pitchstone Publishing, 2016), and the Ra-Men Podcast.

- Tim O’Neill, “’Aron Ra’ Gets Everything Wrong” and follow-up analyses at History for Atheists, documenting specific historical errors concerning flat-Earth claims, the Antipodes, Bosch, and related topics.

- Critiques of definitional approaches to atheism and broader examinations of biblical and historical argumentation associated with Ra’s public work.

- Scientific consensus statements on evolutionary theory from the National Academy of Sciences and educational materials referenced in advocacy against creationist curriculum changes.

- Secondary discussions of the Phylogeny Explorer Project, American Atheists roles, Atheist Alliance of America presidency, and related activist activities.

Friday, February 9, 2024

Why the 'New Atheism' Failed

Most of us remember the "new atheists," many found online on Twitter (now X), Reddit, Facebook, and the now-defunct Google Plus. They used to storm our @Sacerdotus accounts posting ridiculous banal questions, commentary, and insults. Some of them even made personal threats and made attempts to pin identities on our account to attempt to discredit it.  All of this was just show and deflection.  

They presented themselves as "rationalists" seeking truth while playing armchair philosophers and scientists.  In the end, they were just trolls using the guise of atheists to explore and carthetic outlet.  This was a huge reason why the so-called "New Atheism" movement failed miserably aside from the fact that they lacked evidence to prove the non-existence of God.  In our Atheism Is Stupid posts and book, as well as Atheism Dilemma posts we posited several points on why Atheism simply does not work. We will present 5 reasons why the New Atheism movement failed.


The "New Atheism" Misrepresented Academia

Many so-called "New Atheists" tried very hard to present themselves as intelligent, rational, academic, and educated. This attempt ended up exposing them as exhibiting The Dunning–Kruger effect. Arguments would become a nonsensical exchange of contrarianism and the fallacy of apriorism along with many others.  The exchange would be a total waste of time.  It would be heartbreaking to read the distortions of science and philosophy perpetuated by these individuals. They would take theories such as evolution and attempt to use them to prove God does not exist, the Bible is wrong, or that theists are somehow a collective body of science-illiterate fools. In the end, their claims would betray them. They would expose the lack of science literacy on their part. While some theists out there do not understand evolution and believe in a six-day literal interpretation of Genesis 1 and 2, they are not the majority. Nevertheless, the majority of the so-called "New Atheists" proved themselves as lacking a basic understanding of science and how it works.  Some of these so-called "New Atheists" would subscribe to Scientism or the idea that science is the only way to discover truth and measure everything. Those who subscribe to Scientism often disregard philosophy, theology, and other areas of academia.  In our book Atheism Is Stupid, we dedicate several pages to Scientism and why it simply does not work and hurts the journey of knowledge and truth. The human mind needs several ways to process the natural world. Science is simply not enough because it lacks the tools necessary to vet itself and think outside of the box if you will.  So "New Atheists" who played armchair philosophers and scientists did a huge disservice to Atheism and in the process tarnished science and philosophy with their strawman arguments and misunderstanding. This discredited their claims and turned the movement into a parody.


Puerile AntiSocial Behavior


Another reason why the "New Atheism" movement failed is because of the puerile antisocial behavior perpetuated by many of its members. These people hidden often under the guise of anonymity using cartoonish avatars, silly monikers, and whatnot would target theists. At first, they pretended to seek truth and engage in civil discourse, but in reality, they were just looking to harass and troll. Their comments would get extremely hostile and ugly. They would resort to ad hominem, insults, and even vulgarity in the form of sexual commentaries or lewd photos. Four-letter words would fly about in a discourse, so to speak. The topic of the discussion would get lost in the filth of antisocial behavior.  This hurt the "New Atheism" movement severely.  No one likes a rude and nasty person in any walk of life. Humans are social animals. They need to interact and release chemicals in the brain based on interaction. Negativity and disrespect add nothing to the discussion and is definitely not humane. Humanity would not survive, and build governments or systems if all members of the human race behaved like these people posing as "New Atheists." We all can disagree and often do. Even theists disagree with each other. What makes the difference is how one carries oneself during a disagreement. It may be the sole matter in regards to convincing the other party or not to accept your premise. The fact that these people were contentious and nasty simply showed their true agenda: trolling. They were not interested in Atheism or having an intellectual adult discussion. They simply wanted to get a high or gratification from being toxic, harassing theists and even doxxing them. This may be due to loneliness, mental illness, malice, or simply some sexual fetishism where they get a rush of gratification from the delusion of feeling powerful.  Their behavior led to many suspensions on a variety of platforms. Had their approach been more stoic and civil, perhaps the "New Atheism" movement would have gotten more respect and would still be active now in 2024.


Circus Events

Every group loves having large social gatherings. Catholics have them, Protestants, even Muslims and Jews. They often use their temples or rent a large arena in order to host some event or conference. These events are often costly but bring many participants.  The "New Atheism" movement tried doing the same. They had the "Reason Rally" twice, Atheist Con, and other events around the world. At first, these events brought some crowds. While not as big as theist events, the events did gather a good number of "New Atheists." They were not showcased in the media but promoted scarcely by the "New Atheists" themselves via photography posted on their social media. However, while the events were billed as being "rational" and "scientific" in nature, they were far from it. These events were clownish. They have people dressed up in ridiculous costumes. The events came across as a parody of Comic Con. The same speakers were often present, such as the "Friendly Atheist," "Aron-Ra," and several others. Ironically, scientists promoted on popular science television programs such as Dr. Lawrence Kraus, Dr. Neil Degrasse Tyson or Dr. Massimo Pigluicci were no-shows. We can see why.  These events were circus events.  They inspired ridicule more than anything else.  It is no wonder why these events quickly faded out of existence. No one could take them seriously.  The display warped Hippies and speaker lineup of amateur armchair individuals who lacked any academic credentials led to the failure.  These events came across like a large display of the National Lampoon movies with Chevy Chase or Naked Gun with Leslie Nelson.  They were just horrible and exposed the "New Atheism" movement for what it was: a circus of clowns.


Bad Arguments and Content

As stated above, the "New Atheism" movement was full of people pretending to have a grasp of knowledge of science and philosophy. This pretentious behavior led to many disastrous displays on the part of the "New Atheist."  The arguments were just horrible. They were devoid of logic, reason, facts, and coherence.  These "New Atheists" would often resort to the banal Infinite Regression argument which has been refuted several times for centuries.  They were quick to say that we do not know how the Universe came to be, but that they knew God had nothing to do with it.  The argument is just disastrous and shows their hatred and bias against God. How can one say that they do not know how the Universe truly came to be but know it was not God who did it? It is just ridiculous. Many of them relied on memes for argumentation. These memes are a story in themselves in regards to lack of facts and education. One funny meme shows Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane praying. Above Him are the words, "Dear God, it is me/you..." The meme is obviously an attempt to mock the Trinity by misrepresenting it.  It is a strawman argument showing the creator of the meme and the persons posting it believe there is a contradiction with Jesus praying to God while being God.  It shows a lack of knowledge of the Hypostatic Union.  There are many others that we do not have time to cover here, but we are sure you have seen them floating around on the internet.  These along with other arguments presented served more as comic relief than a rebuttal of Theism. At one point, these "New Atheists" started a Roku channel entitled Atheist TV.  There was a lot of excitement over this Roku channel. However, it lasted a few months due to a lack of viewership.  It was just a disaster with ridiculous programming. Many Atheists in academia, including Massimo Pigluicci mocked the attempt.  The content from "New Atheists" pretty much destroyed their credibility. It helped bring more people to God and religion. The irony!


Cannot Prove God Does Not Exist

Finally, the biggest reason why the "New Atheism" movement failed is the same one the traditional Atheism failed: it could not prove its claims on God.  Like with the original Atheism, the "New Atheism" simply could not offer strong arguments ot evidence against the existence of God.  The claims were unsubstantiated special pleading and arguments from ignorance masquerading as intelligentsia.  The late Dr. Carl Sagan stated this:



He was absolutely right!  There is NO COMPELLING EVIDENCE FOR THE NON-EXISTENCE OF GOD.  This is because God is beyond us. God is huge as a being and concept. Even if we knew everything about this universe, we still could not prove God does not exist. This is because there can be other universes and other dimensions. There can be other realms of existence that we simply cannot probe due to our ontology and technological capabilities. The cartoon movie Spider-Man Miles Morales shows what may happen if we happen to appear in a multiverse in a universe that is not our own. The laws of physics in that universe may not be compatible with our atomic structures. We may simply disappear in that universe, appear disfigured to those who dwell in that alien universe, or may simply phase in and out like the characters in the movie. Moreover, we know so far thanks to Catholic priest Monsignore Georg Lemaitre that the universe began at the "Big Bang."  This Cosmic Inflation theory posits that the universe had a beginning and began to expand.  To date, we do not know if we are expanding inside something else or if the expansion is "everything." We simply do not know and most likely will never know because of the limits of the laws of physics, our physicality, and technology.  Think about it, if everything came into being at the "Big Bang," how can we travel before this point? This would mean our substance would cease to exist because there was nothing before the "Big Bang." How can our "something" exist in a realm of "nothing?"  Then there is the issue of time which makes things even more complicated.  This is why Sagan said there is no evidence and God can be relegated about to different times, places, and so on.  So for an Atheist (traditional or new) to claim God does not exist is simply hogwash. It is a special pleading fallacy based on an appeal to ignorance.  Then their attempt to apply science and philosophy to their claims makes a mess of logic. Moreover, the "New Atheists" love to claim that the theist has the burden of proof when they are the ones claiming God is not real.  It simply does not work that way. If you state God is real, it is your burden to prove that. If you state God IS NOT real, it is your burden to prove that as well. If you are not sure, then simply say this!  The "New Atheist" claim that God is not real has no value without evidence.  It is simply his or her word.  It is a bare assertion that no one is obligated to accept on fact.  The reality is that there are better arguments and evidence for God than for Atheism, new or old.  No one can present God in His entirety to anyone else. It is simply not possible. All we can do is offer reasons, arguments, finite evidence, and proofs that are limited to our senses and capabilities. 

In conclusion, the "New Atheism" movement was a fad that dissipated quickly. It was like a strong smelly flatulence that made a scene shocking people but then diluted into nothingness as we all laughed from the embarrassment of it.  It misrepresented academia, was not amicable in its presentation, was a circus of bad arguments and optics, and simply could not prove God does not exist. Because of this, it faded into oblivion; into the ocean of forgottenness.  

The "New Atheism" set out to win converts to Atheism but instead brought many to Theism. Leah Lebresco-Sargeant is an example. She was once like the "Friendly Atheist" with her online content and even spoke at the "Reason Rally." Shortly after, she became a Catholic and is active in the Catholic Church and even in the Pro-life movement.  Many others crossed over to the right side of reason and history and are Catholic, some joined Protestant or Eastern Rite non-Catholic denominations.  In any event, the "New Atheism" was an epic fail thanks to its followers and its lack of substance.  A house built on sand simply disintegrates.  


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