tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827824285101179434.post4704078399172320444..comments2023-08-11T04:59:57.364-04:00Comments on Sacerdotus: Atheism Dilemma IIUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827824285101179434.post-5431361757756152012013-02-02T14:56:58.028-05:002013-02-02T14:56:58.028-05:00No serious scholar takes the "Jesus is a borr...No serious scholar takes the "Jesus is a borrowed myth" theory seriously. Atheist scholar Michael Grant writes: <br /><br />"To sum up, modern critical methods fail to support the Christ myth theory. It has 'again and again been answered and annihilated by first rank scholars.' In recent years, 'no serous scholar has ventured to postulate the non historicity of Jesus' or at any rate very few, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger, indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary." - Jesus: An Historian's Review of the Gospels <br /><br />As an atheist, I scrutinized every religion known to man. This is why I am able to engage people of all faiths and no faith. Mythical creatures and leprechauns have their origin in folk tales, so they are not valid for belief. If you can find the origin of any story, then you know it is a myth. Sacerdotushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04558048488785769126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827824285101179434.post-27630634590264324462013-02-02T14:51:29.895-05:002013-02-02T14:51:29.895-05:00There are things out there we cannot perceive. Th...There are things out there we cannot perceive. This is not news. Even the things we do sense are not always how we sense them. In reality, we never perceive things! Our brains sorts the information in the way it is set up to interpret it. Reincarnation is different. Logically speaking, it does not make sense to come back over and over into a different person if you have to "fix" the previous life, but can't remember it. Reincarnation never was logical to me. Yes energy is eternal and recycles itself; however, one would have to show that the soul is energy. Sacerdotushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04558048488785769126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827824285101179434.post-57018251296849771652013-02-02T14:47:00.091-05:002013-02-02T14:47:00.091-05:00Where is the fallacy?Where is the fallacy?Sacerdotushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04558048488785769126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827824285101179434.post-53600175861241976672013-02-01T21:20:39.832-05:002013-02-01T21:20:39.832-05:00Oh, dear.
http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/Oh, dear.<br /><br />http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/Jansennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827824285101179434.post-85640347620447314362013-01-31T08:43:07.215-05:002013-01-31T08:43:07.215-05:00I see. We should believe that absolutely anything ...I see. We should believe that absolutely anything could be there but just outside our natural sensory perceptions? That is much more sensible that accepting the things which we do have evidence for and waiting on evidence for everything else. I had a Hindu tell me yesterday that I should accept that I reincarnated because I cannot remember not having lived before. That uses the same logic as yours. You have no evidence you have not lived before and millions of people believe they have personal relationships with gods who say you did. Do you think you should start worshipping those gods too? Helen Pluckrosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827824285101179434.post-54542549199214878282013-01-31T08:42:45.569-05:002013-01-31T08:42:45.569-05:00I see. We should believe that absolutely anything ...I see. We should believe that absolutely anything could be there but just outside our natural sensory perceptions? That is much more sensible that accepting the things which we do have evidence for and waiting on evidence for everything else. I had a Hindu tell me yesterday that I should accept that I reincarnated because I cannot remember not having lived before. That uses the same logic as yours. You have no evidence you have not lived before and millions of people believe they have personal relationships with gods who say you did. Do you think you should start worshipping those gods too? Helen Pluckrosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827824285101179434.post-1347072080618232362013-01-30T18:15:59.272-05:002013-01-30T18:15:59.272-05:00Of course we test the existence of gods. For your ...Of course we test the existence of gods. For your one see Feuerbach and Strauss - The Life of Jesus and The Essence of Christianity for detailed explanation of how Christianity got invented just like Santa and of course, we have looked at evidence of so called miracles and asked God to show himself. <br /><br />I wonder how much of this you have done before denying all the gods and other mythical creatures you disbelieve in? Or do you admit to taking a contrarian position to leprechauns because you are angry with them? Helen Pluckrosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827824285101179434.post-81039081989841127972012-11-12T23:28:35.106-05:002012-11-12T23:28:35.106-05:00Well let me put it to you this way. I'm sure ...Well let me put it to you this way. I'm sure you've heard of Helen Keller. She is a well known figure in American history. Keller was blind, deaf and mute. <br /><br />We all rely heavily on our senses, in particular hearing and sight. Imagine living without them. Unless you are touched, you will not have any awareness that something or someone is near you. Keller experienced this. Now suppose you had this condition. You cannot see or hear and 10 people encircle you without touching you and at the same time they avoid making any vibrations that your sense of touch might pick up. Would you be aware of those 10 people? Would you have "empirical evidence" of their presence? The answer is no. You would be completely oblivious to their existence due to the absence of 2 of your most important senses. <br /><br />The evidence is there: 10 people encircling you. <br /><br />The problem is that you cannot sense them by normative means. Just because you lack this ability to sense them does not mean the 10 people are not there. <br /><br /><br />God is the same. He is around us, we might not sense His presence as we would another human, animal or object unless He wills it, nonetheless, He is there. Our perceptual limitations are not the final word on what exists and does not exist. Therefore "absence of 'evidence' does not mean evidence of absence." Sacerdotushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04558048488785769126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827824285101179434.post-34367537809473037092012-11-12T18:59:54.522-05:002012-11-12T18:59:54.522-05:00The complete lack of evidence for gods is an empir...The complete lack of evidence for gods is an empirical reason to think that they do not exist.<br /><br />Absence of evidence is a characteristic of absence after all.<br /><br />Your thoughts?<br /><br /> - Joe's WorldAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com